Re: Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:54 pm
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Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
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Re: Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:44 pm
Re: Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:25 pm
No problem at all Tony. Yeah, I agree! It's 75 degrees here. Build on!
Re: Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:18 pm
Christopher,
Don't know why, but I assumed you were discussing skin rivets.
Time to turn off the computer and build an airplane
Tony
Don't know why, but I assumed you were discussing skin rivets.
Time to turn off the computer and build an airplane
Tony
Re: Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:04 am
"you should try to have a large anodic area (aluminum) and a small cathodic area (stainless steel)" this tends to support the use of ss rivet in aluminum vs (aluminum rivet in steel such as zenith 750 skin to fuselage)
I didn't choose SS, the CCC and CCP are ss rivets. They came with tail kit for the stiffeners/spar and hinges to skins/spars
Clearly any electrolyte (salt) will speed up the process. I could have chosen any one of 1000 websites, here is one:
http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/6690/G ... d-Aluminum
For the record, go to the marina at any Coastal environment, and look at an aluminum mast, with stainless steel fittings and rivets. There will likely be corrosion unless there is an insulator in a paint, gel, or non metal washer applied. I know Sonex does it and I am totally fine with the use of no primer/insulator on a 6061 structure due to its same consistency all the way through, and comfortable with aluminum pop rivets without insulator on aluminum structure. Just wondering about SS rivets on aluminum.
However, I just found this. I think this might suggest that it is ok. One thing the Brits know well, is moisture in the air, and marine environments. And this is from the British Stainless Steel Association.
http://www.bssa.org.uk/topics.php?article=89
I didn't choose SS, the CCC and CCP are ss rivets. They came with tail kit for the stiffeners/spar and hinges to skins/spars
Clearly any electrolyte (salt) will speed up the process. I could have chosen any one of 1000 websites, here is one:
http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/6690/G ... d-Aluminum
For the record, go to the marina at any Coastal environment, and look at an aluminum mast, with stainless steel fittings and rivets. There will likely be corrosion unless there is an insulator in a paint, gel, or non metal washer applied. I know Sonex does it and I am totally fine with the use of no primer/insulator on a 6061 structure due to its same consistency all the way through, and comfortable with aluminum pop rivets without insulator on aluminum structure. Just wondering about SS rivets on aluminum.
However, I just found this. I think this might suggest that it is ok. One thing the Brits know well, is moisture in the air, and marine environments. And this is from the British Stainless Steel Association.
http://www.bssa.org.uk/topics.php?article=89
Re: Steel CCC or CCP rivet on aluminum part
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:32 am
Christopher,
John Monnett has been using stainless rivets in the Sonex (6061) since the mid 90's. And in the Sonerai (2024) since the mid 70's.
My Sonex was two miles from the ocean while being built, then spent 5 years in a hangar 10 miles from salt water. No paint, no primer. And no signs of any corrosion.
Why did you choose stainless rivets over aluminum?
Tony
John Monnett has been using stainless rivets in the Sonex (6061) since the mid 90's. And in the Sonerai (2024) since the mid 70's.
My Sonex was two miles from the ocean while being built, then spent 5 years in a hangar 10 miles from salt water. No paint, no primer. And no signs of any corrosion.
Why did you choose stainless rivets over aluminum?
Tony